Ethnic rivalries, demanding to be united in a homeland that preserves their culture and language is something that we hear usually in the context of Africa and the Middle East. Those conquered lands were drawn up arbitrarily in order to keep colonial rule, and the export of natural materials flowing.
Now in some parallel universe it is Europe that keeps popping up with ethnic minorities that desire the self determination of a homeland, never mind that they had one once and it got taken over because some states aren’t viable as independent countries. Translation: you got conquered way back when because of superior numbers, technology, and strategy; how will this time be different?
While the Balkans is technically Europe they have not behaved like it except when they were under the control of the USSR, of course that was because soviets would kill everybody if trouble started up. Not the most imaginative way to solve a problem but, if it works it can’t be too awful right?
Now fast forward and we have the people of Kosovo, who are now wanting their own country in order to prevent the violence they suffered at the hands of the Serbians under Milosevic. (Fun Fact: Republicans called Clinton’s involvement in the area irresponsible and unnecessary, and felt that any foreign involvement without a clear exit strategy was treasonable. Now it is patriotic.)
The problem with Kosovo getting a country, is that it does set a bad precedent to other parts of Europe beyond the Balkans. Spain for example has existed as a conglomerate of several different ethnic groups. Portugal was the one that got away, and got to be its own country back when burning witches was cool. The most modern day independent of these have been the Basques who have used terrorist tactics in order to force the issue of independence.
Now to be fair they have calmed down the bombing bit because the followers of Islam seem to have that market of negative press cornered. The invisible hand of the market does work in mysterious ways after all. Kosovo getting its independence would be a very sticky international allowance of the Basques getting their own country. Especially if Venezuela decides to mount a pre-emptive strike.
Then of course we have the lovely people of Chechnya, who have been trying to rid themselves of Russian rule since, lets say 1234 because it is a nice number. Chechnyans don’t mind the violence so much, cause nothing will make the Russians be sympathetic to your cause than killing women and children. They must have taken classes at the Palestinian University of Kaboom.
Then of course there is the outsider of the European Union Turkey, which I favorably call the good Muslims, because they use their military to attack radicals, not funding them to blow themselves up at Western Embassies. They have a problem with the Kurds that has lasted since Alexander the Great left.
Now I support the Kurds, they don’t harbor terrorists to attack America, they are one of the few ethnic groups that are hated as much as the Israelis are in that part of the world. They don’t resent us for Daddy Bush telling them to rise against Saddam’s regime and then turning around and saying helicopters are cool to fly in the no-fly zones, thus cutting the Kurds to ribbons.
But they still don’t get their own country. Now I understand having an economically weak, militarily underfunded, only natural resource is sand, has worked for Jordan all these years, but a united stable Iraq would be better for everyone. Excluding of course the people who die in the ethnic cleansing non-civil war they have.
What I am saying is this, we expect this kind of mess from other places in the World. Europe has always thought of itself as better, having royals marry their relations does that to people, look at Kansas, but keep it together Man, You’re Europe For God’s Sake.
Very interesting article, which reflects a lot of reports by the press, particularly those of the Serbs and Russians, of a domino like theory if Kosovo declares independence. But I think Kosovo is in a different situation than the other countries you mentioned, as well as the situations you hinted at, such as the Bosnian Serbs. For their part, the Serbs committed massive violence against the Albanian population in the late 90s. Kosovo had autonomy from Belgrade until Slobodan put the axe down. Now, during the negotiations between Serbia and Albania, the Serbs are pushing the autonomous province idea, akin to a Hong Kong or a Puerto Rico. Again, though, Kosovo was an autonomous province. And everyone knows in the Balkans that there is such hatred between large segements of the Serb and Albanian population. True, some of that is based on things five hundred years ago. Nonetheless, it is there, and perhaps it is pessimistic to believe that the Serbs and the Kosovars will ever get along. Hence, the term balkanization. Yes, it’s a cop out, but what are the options?
I don’t think the status quo will work. Nor do I think the world will end if Kosovo declares independence. I don’t think the Martians on Mars will declare independence nor do I think will the Polar Bears on the Ice caps (what’s left of them!!!) will declare independence either. You are right to consider the international effects of “changing” borders. But if that is the primary concern that controls all negotiations, then there will, frankly, never be change.
KURDISTAN: SOLIDARIETA’ PER IL POPOLO CURDO
Cosa pensi della situazione in Kurdistan?
Il fatto che tu parli di Kurdistan e non di Turchia è interessante.
In questo momento i curdi sono sotto attacco sia dall’Iraq che dalla Turchia. Tanto per cambiare, tra l’incudine e il martello. 100 mila soldati iraqueni da una parte e 100 mila soldati turchi dall’altra che forse stanno già massacrando le popolazioni civili curde compiendo un massacro senza precedenti.
Non si hanno informazioni precise, forse si contano già migliaia di vittime, forse decine di migliaia di vittime dopo pochi giorni dall’inizio degli scontri. I piani del Nuovo Ordine Mondiale prevedono l’eliminazione dei popoli tribali.
Usano la tecnica di eliminare un popolo tribale per volta, cioè che con la propaganda si marchia di infamia un popolo che diventa “quel popolo di stronzi”, quel “covo di terroristi”.
Gli altri popoli vengono tranquillizzati con la menzogna “voi non siete come loro, non preoccupatevi, non si tratta di pulizia etnica, ma di stronzi, una normale operazione di polizia contro alcuni terroristi”.
In questo modo l’opinione pubblica non mette sul piatto l’attacco contemporaneo a mille popoli tribali, e non si formano coalizioni tra popoli tribali e nessuno interviene in solidarietà del popolo attaccato.
Ma ricordatevi, quello che fanno agli altri alla prima occasione lo faranno anche a voi.
Uno per volta hanno già eliminato per sempre oltre 200 etnie e ne hanno indebolite migliaia, come quelle italiane, tant’è che come sapete non si parla più il dialetto, e quasi neanche si parla più l’italiano.
L’italiano è un passaggio verso la lingua ufficiale europea, dai dialetti, verso l’italiano, verso l’europeo.
In questo momento la scusa dell’attacco al Kurdistan sono i giacimenti di petrolio, ma come sapete anche in Kurdistan 100 kg di foglie equivalgono a 50 kg di petrolio.
Non serve distruggere tutto per mettere dei pozzi di petrolio, ma sfruttare razionalmente le coltivazioni razionali e le riserve estrattive di biomassa.
Lo scopo quindi dell’aggressione ai curdi è di trarre piacere dalle sofferenze di questa povera gente, non c’è nessun interesse economico, nessun interesse energetico.
Con la dinamite si può ottenere energia a prezzo mille volte inferiore del petrolio.
Con i motori magnetici e il motore di Schietti si può ottenere energia senza consumare carburanti.
Il petrolio non è il motivo, i soldi non sono il motivo dell’invasione del Kurdistan, perchè i padroni del mondo li stampano, il motivo sono il sadomasochismo e la selezione razziale.
Poi però non chiedetemi niente sui particolari delle operazioni in Kurdistan perchè la propaganda distorce le informazioni, e anche fra i curdi molti, stupidamente, puntano al confronto armato basato sulla forza e non sull’intelligenza. Sicuramente ci saranno anche infiltrati.
I curdi hanno già fatto vedere che sanno reagire e quindi se gli capiterà in mano una bomba atomica non vorrei essere nei paraggi di Ankara. Però se avete capito che lo scopo della guerra è anche quello di ridurre la popolazione, potrebbe essere un favore ai nemici dell’umanità.
La vendetta è un piatto che va gustato freddo.
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